Alt maps break macros and mappings that use <esc> + char

[bruno-]

Hi,
for the past week or so I was obsessed with setting up Alt mappings for all the possible keys based on the example provided in vim-rsi. I digged the idea of being able to use Alt as another modifier key. I even created a plugin that enables that (it's a work in progress, but I probably won't bother to finalize it).

Since then, I've learned that setting up alt mappings breaks 2 other things:

• regular mappings that use esc + character and
• macros that have esc + char

Here's how the issues can be reproduced in vim-rsi:

• the following macro doesn't work istuff^[f.astuff^[. f. does not do what it should because ^[ + f is recognized as
• this mapping does not work imap <C-s> <Esc>ddi (this example is obviously made up)

Basically, anytime <Esc> + b, d, f, n or p (alt mappings from vim-rsi) is executed in a macro or a mapping, I think it won't work. And it will be dang hard to debug why.

For me personally, the biggest issue are f and n because they are used all to often in macros.

Not sure if there's any solution to this, but I hope bringing this up helps.

[tpope]

Huh, didn't think about that. Is it true of noremap as well?

[bruno-]

Good thinking - so inoremap <C-s> <Esc>ddi seems to work properly (no side-effects when vim.rsi is loaded).

[bohrshaw]

@bruno- I also ran into this issue and haven't found a way to avoid macro disruption while keeping meta/alt chords mapped. But there are some circumventions like executing the macro using normal! or escaping using <C-C>. You could find more details in my codes.

[dkasak]

Just ran into this myself. If there is no solution, perhaps a short note in the README.md would be a good idea?

[acornejo]

same here, noticed that my macros were broken, and after a binary search through all the plugins, disabling vim-rsi made it work.

[justinmk]

Note that Neovim doesn't have the meta-macro problem mentioned here. If rsi.vim decides to disable this, I suggest making it conditional on has("nvim").

[acornejo]

rsi already has a flag to disable this, so that works (and its fine for nvim, since folks can do has("nvim") in their vimrc if they want to set that flag conditionally).

what would be cool is if we could get vim-rsi meta bindings in vanilla vim (although I guess I might as well switch to neovim already...)

[justinmk]

rsi already has a flag to disable this

Ok, but presumably the intention of this issue is to suggest that the meta-maps be disabled by default. They should not be disabled for Neovim.

[bruno-]

Hey,
the issue was open quite some time ago when disabling meta mappings wasn't possible.

Meta maps in vim-rsi are defined and work for a) insert and b) command line modes. The issue with macros happens only for a) insert mode.
Having the meta maps defined for command line mode is fine. I don't think there's a reason a user would want to disable these.

Maybe the best approach would be:

• keep command line meta maps always on (no downsides)
• make insert mode meta maps disabled by default (fixes this issue)

[blatant promotion of another plugin - feel free to delete if it's a problem]
I wanted to make some more contributions to vim-rsi but eventually ended up creating vim-husk. It's focused just on vim's command line so this problem is not an issue there. Apart from the idea, I straight up copied a couple things from vim-rsi (credit given).

[tpope]

I'm still not clear on why noremap isn't the solution?

[acornejo]

@tpope noremap fixes the problem of not being able to map keys to things that use <Esc><somechar>

But AFAIK, it doesn't help to make macros work, in particular macros where you use <Esc><any_char_bound_by_meta_with_rsi>are broken.

I am happy to provide a simple broken macro example if it helps, it turns out these macros happen a lot, since for instance you might want to edit some text, then leave insert mode (<Esc>) and then go to the beginning of the word (b), but since M-b is used by vim-rsi, the macro will be corrupt.

[tpope]

Oh, bleh, didn't catch the part about macros. I guess nuking the insert mode mappings entirely would be fine.